{"id":69,"date":"2002-03-20T19:37:05","date_gmt":"2002-03-21T00:37:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.goer.org\/wordpress\/web_snobbery"},"modified":"2002-03-20T19:37:05","modified_gmt":"2002-03-21T00:37:05","slug":"web_snobbery","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.goer.org\/Journal\/2002\/03\/web_snobbery.html","title":{"rendered":"Web Snobbery"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\nSo I&#8217;ve been surfing around the web, looking at other journals and weblogs,<br \/>\ntrying to see what other people are doing for their design and content<br \/>\nmanagement.  It&#8217;s been educational, to say the least.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nThe good news is that I&#8217;ve discovered my journaling software Sugar Daddy:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.moveabletype.org\" title=\"free, client-side blogger software\">Moveable Type 2.0<\/a>.<br \/>\nFirst, I looked into<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/\" title=\"home of the Warbloggers\">Blogger<\/a>,<br \/>\nbut Blogger is centrally managed, and its server has been hacked and attacked too many times for<br \/>\nmy comfort.  There was <a href=\"http:\/\/radio.userland.com\/\" title=\"proprietary blog software\">Radio<\/a>,<br \/>\nbut it costs $40, and said $40 would go directly to<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.scripting.com\/\" title=\"The People's Champion\">Dave Winer<\/a> &#8212; yuck.  I took a look at<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.oreillynet.com\/~rael\/lang\/perl\/blosxom\/\" title=\"An exercise in minimalism\">blosxom<\/a>,<br \/>\nwhich was <em>awfully<\/em> cute (&#8220;only 60 lines of code!&#8221;)&#8230; but no.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nFinally, there was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.noahgrey.com\/greysoft\/\" title=\"Kind of a precursor to Moveable Type\">Greymatter<\/a>,<br \/>\nwhich was very, very close.  Noah Grey deserves a lot of credit for putting this<br \/>\ntool together by himself &#8212; and spawning a host of imitators.  Unfortunately,<br \/>\nNoah is no longer supporting Greymatter.  Also, Greymatter didn&#8217;t integrate well<br \/>\nwith my old journal archive, and it wouldn&#8217;t let me have a different essay for<br \/>\neach monthly archive page (not without playing a little trick or two).\n<\/p>\n<p>\nAnyway, it looks like Moveable Type&#8217;s got it all and then some.  Fast, even more<br \/>\nflexible than Greymatter, and with a stellar web-based user interface.  I will never<br \/>\nbad-mouth <a href=\"http:\/\/www.perl.com\/\" \ntitle=\"Fancy shell scripting.  Oops!  You didn't hear that...\">Perl<\/a> again.  (Not that I&#8217;ve ever<br \/>\nbad-mouthed Perl, but from now on if I <em>hear<\/em> anyone bad-mouth Perl, I&#8217;ll<br \/>\nat least know to smirk knowingly, the same way I do when I hear about 32-CPU Intel<br \/>\nsystems.)\n<\/p>\n<p>\nMy other discovery was that the Web designer community is rife with<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.evolt.org\/article\/Editors\/25\/6096\/index.html#comment14811\" \ntitle=\"There are more of these guys out there than you think.\">snobbery<\/a><br \/>\nand breathless enthusiasm for bleeding-edge-technology-uber-alles.  (And the<br \/>\nPope is Catholic, water is wet, &#8230; yeah, yeah.)<br \/>\nStill, you&#8217;d think there would be some maturation over the years.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nA couple of years ago, websites were festooned with<br \/>\nbuttons that said, &#8220;This site best viewed in Netscape\/IE 4.&#8221;  Now things are<br \/>\nworse &#8212; a depressingly high number of sites use JavaScript to judge whether<br \/>\nyour browser is worthy, and if you fall short, you get a message<br \/>\nordering you to upgrade to a browser that &#8220;supports web standards.&#8221;  A few people don&#8217;t<br \/>\neven bother with the obnoxious little message:  they actually<br \/>\n<em>kick you out of their site<\/em> if you don&#8217;t make the cut.  Apparently<br \/>\nthese people think they are part of<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.alistapart.com\/stories\/tohell\/\" \ntitle=\"Viva la Browseristas! Viva!\">some kind of movement<\/a>.\n<\/p>\n<p>\nLet&#8217;s leave aside the fact that <em>no browser<\/em> fully supports web standards<br \/>\n(HTML4.01 and CSS2) and focus on <em>why<\/em> someone might not have the latest,<br \/>\ngreatest browser:\n<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p><b>Their boss says so.<\/b> Once a company standardizes its intranet on one<br \/>\nbrowser, that&#8217;s it.  Everyone&#8217;s stuck with the same software, and might be for<br \/>\nyears, end of story.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p><b>They don&#8217;t have the hardware.<\/b> The latest browsers don&#8217;t run so hot on old<br \/>\n386 computers.  This is a particular problem for libraries, schools, and foreigners (but<br \/>\nwho gives a crap about them?)<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p><b>They have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about.<\/b> Your average user could<br \/>\n<em>not possibly care less<\/em> what browser they use.  They might not even know<br \/>\nwhat &#8220;HTML&#8221; is.  And no, these people are <em>not<\/em> beneath contempt &#8212; they<br \/>\njust don&#8217;t care about the same weird, esoteric things that you do.<\/p>\n<p>Quick, web-boy &#8212; under <a href=\"http:\/\/newton.dep.anl.gov\/askasci\/phy00\/phy00137.htm\" \ntitle=\"Everyone who didn't shout, 'The Siphon Principle!' will be staying after class\">which<br \/>\nsimple physical principle<\/a> does a standard flush toilet operate?  No?  You don&#8217;t know?<br \/>\nBut you use one every day!<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p><b>They aren&#8217;t going to download 20MB over dial-up just to see your webpage.<\/b><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p><b>They might be savvier than you think.<\/b> Most of the <em>really<\/em><br \/>\ncool kids surf around with javascript, Flash, and images turned off. And they<br \/>\nare not impressed with your bleating about how people don&#8217;t upgrade fast enough.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>\nBut honestly, what the heck do I know?  I still use a table-based layout.  And my pages<br \/>\nonly <a href=\"http:\/\/validator.w3.org\/check\/referer\" title=\"validate this page\">validate HTML 4.01 <em>Transitional<\/em><\/a>.<br \/>\nHow sad is that?\n<\/p>\n<p><i>Edit, April 2003:  Now this site is all CSS-P based and validates HTML 4.01 Strict.  Although I should point out that I used &lt;i&gt; tags to make this addendum.  Take <b>that<\/b>, standards-weenies.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few people don&#8217;t even bother with the obnoxious little message:  they actually<br \/>\n<em>kick you out of their site<\/em> if you don&#8217;t make the cut.  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